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Genmab — September 2020

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Genmab
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  • JørgenVarnæsJ Offline
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    JørgenVarnæs
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #624

    Jan has certainly given us the impression that the SC administration would prolong the GEN royalty stream

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      JørgenVarnæs
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      #625

      That kind of communication opens the company up to all sorts of litigation if it is not so

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        E_L
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        #626

        he did, didn't he? i am even wondering if we asked him in a Q&A?

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        • JørgenVarnæsJ Offline
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          JørgenVarnæs
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          #627

          I wonder if it is the AbbVie deal that has pissed JJ off so much?

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            E_L
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            #628

            well, he is clearly under that impression, otherwise he wouldn't start the arbitration

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            • StockBullS Offline
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              StockBull
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              #629

              Mon ikke bare det er et bump på vejen. Kurs 3000 Q1 - 2020 ? . Vurder selv. Kanalen er bare blevet lidt bredere 🙂 https://nbg1.your-objectstorage.com/proinvestor-dev/forum/boards/86975_bump.JPG

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                GeorgeBest
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #630

                UBS og Jefferies beholder deres købsanbefaling og målkurser på hhv. 2540 og 2800. Bryan Garnier downgrader til sælg uden målkurs.

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                • JørgenVarnæsJ Offline
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                  JørgenVarnæs
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                  #631

                  I’m not sure about the 5% share to HALO - but certainly about the prolonged revenue stream

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                    MBCruise
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                    #632

                    Worst case er vel at acceptere andelen af betaling til Halozyme, hvilket vil være ca. 100mio$ ud af 2mia$ royalty på peak ved 10mia$ salg. Hvis Genmab accepterer denne kan JJ vel ikke hævde at det kun er deres patent efter 2030?

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                      Mcjean
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                      #633

                      Tror ikke det er vigtigt her @lahn, det er et tveægget sværd som de har glemt at gardere sig imod. De kan umuligt vinde begge punkter da det ene punkt modsiger det andet eller mere klart de er skakmat. De må vælge hvor de taber mindst. De kan nok vinde begge tviste hver for sig, men ikke sammen er mit gæt for den tvist de vinder først vil blive brugt mod dem selv i tvist 2.

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                      • JørgenVarnæsJ Offline
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                        JørgenVarnæs
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #634

                        It seems that JJ wants it both ways - one, they want GEN to pay 5% to HALO - two, they want to cut the royalty period significantly

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                          JørgenVarnæs
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #635

                          That is fighting talk

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                            E_L
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #636

                            on 09.31 i was actually thinking the opposite; i really wonder if JNJ was in the race, and if choosing AbbVie could actually be a reflection on this dispute...

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                              E_L
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #637

                              mabye overthinking it...

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                              • JørgenVarnæsJ Offline
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                                JørgenVarnæs
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #638

                                Could be all of the above. This kind of crap is poison for the stock - short term and long term

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                                  Mcjean
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                                  Genmab kan ikke undgå selv at bestemme hvilken tvist de vil vinde er mit bud. Det ved JJ, men de ved også at ligegyldig hvilken de vælger så slipper de for at tabe den anden tvist. Jeg havde gjort det samme, Genmab kan ikke forvente at slippe for royalties og beholde patentet til noget de ikke vil betale til/for. Genmab må vælge og mon ikke hurtig de vælger royalties og så er kursfaldet jo helt ude i hampen.

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                                    JørgenVarnæs
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #640

                                    Det ene behøver ikke at udelukke det andet. GEN kan tabe det hele, vinde det hele - og alt der i mellem

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                                      E_L
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                                      #641

                                      it is part of business JV. Dara is 1 of JNJ's most important assets. IF HexaBody-CD38 is the successor, they will resolve the dispute and carry on is my guess.

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                                        E_L
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #642

                                        But it clearly shows 1 of the reasons Jan was so keen on 50/50 partnerships...

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                                          JørgenVarnæs
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #643

                                          ...it does seem like somebody had a bit of a kip when the dara deal was written down

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