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Genmab — Oktober 2019

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Genmab
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    Mcjean
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    #1116

    okie ty

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      Mcjean
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      #1117

      The S curve suck's you know that;-) The curve dosent fit Genmab, we talk about a drug like insulin......most will have to take it the rest of there life. U(slang) more u treat u more on the drug. I think the non linear S-curve is too soon to develop because we will see a lot maintenance and we need to fill that cup up first maybe?

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        Mcjean
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        #1118

        Perhaps in 2025 you will see the effect of the s-curve when the sale has reached 15bn$;-)

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          E_L
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          #1119

          i think we may be talking about different curves lol, i was more thinking about the effect from 1st line inflows now, where they start on weekly dosing, then later to bi-weekly and then once every four weeks

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            Sukkeralf
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            https://endpts.com/is-there-a-recipe-for-ma-success-the-best-and-worst-buyout-deals-in-the-past-decade-offer-some-keys-to-success-and-failure/

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              E_L
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              #1121

              as for maintenance; 2020 may be a bit too soon to see an effect of that, but for future projections i think it is waaaay undervalued

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                E_L
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                and nobody even talks about smoldering in their analysis

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                  Helge_LarsenPI-redaktør
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                  #1123

                  It amazes me that no analysts have a focus on smoldering at all.

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                    E_L
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                    #1124

                    it is probably a bit like solids; nobody puts any value on it, but if it fails they drop their price targets by 20% 😄

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                      Sukkeralf
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                      #1125

                      The problem also is that the market does not exist yet - so hard to put numbers on - and to figure out what impact it will have on MM patients. I guess we need more data first

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                        Helge_LarsenPI-redaktør
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                        #1126

                        E.L. You should not joke this kind of thing here in the chat. 😉

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                          Helge_LarsenPI-redaktør
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                          #1127

                          Sugaralf. 🙂 You're probably right.

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                            bibob
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                            No E L. Shame on you. 😄

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                              E_L
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                              #1129

                              😄

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                                Bulder
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                                #1130

                                Dara for maintenance is not approved anywhere. As for smoldering, you only treat high risk pts, about 15% of pts. Limited market. Bowers value smoldering with 47 dkk.

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                                  Bulder
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                                  ... out of 1650

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                                    Sukkeralf
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                                    And the problem is still that you treat people that are not sick yet - can you get reimbursement for that. And what kind of treatment would you go after - delaying the MM or a possible cure (like 4 combination therapy maybe). I think its way too early........

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                                      E_L
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                                      #1133

                                      Dara isn't the full 1650... and probability weighted; if 100% approved it will get close to 3L and 4L

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                                        Bulder
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                                        Rather half of 3. and 4. line

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                                          Solsen
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                                          I belive generic Revlimid could kick in the S-curve 🙂

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