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Genmab — Juni 2019

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    Bulder
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    #620

    Har vi hørt om hexabody cd38 før? Jeg synes ikke at kunne finde nogen IND/CTA undervejs?

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      E_L
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      i haven't seen it before, no

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        E_L
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        #622

        next question is; will it work in solids 😄

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          bibob
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          Lets hope so. 😉

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            Bulder
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #624

            There is not that much cd38 on solid tumors. The reason why dara was thought to be effective in solids was that it could strengthen the efficacy of a PD(L)-1 inhibitor by blocking cd38. I don't know if a boosted cd38 would be of any help here. But I think we need Sukkeralf on this subject.

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              Sukkeralf
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              #625

              If I remember correctly Jans first thoughts of new INDs for 2019 was 3-5 and recently it was 3 (and we know them all) but maybe HexaCD38 could have been close so I hope it will be a 2020 IND

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                lahn1
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                #626

                @09:28 yes I see that now. It stille feels early to do this deal, hence the "pure milestone
                payement"

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                  Sukkeralf
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #627

                  But the deal need to be in place for Genmab to do the costly preclinical work

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                    lahn1
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #628

                    yes nice to have a buyer on hand, maybe not as bad a deal as it seemed at first glance

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                      nohope
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                      I´ll welcome almost any kind of deals, also, this deal, but it does seem rather far away from what Jan has been talking about. This is a techdeal with a product, this should have been paid upfront and/or on 50/50 basis. But any hole in the no-deal-wall is welcome to me.

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                        E_L
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                        #630

                        I am actually very excited about this deal- Dara is the backbone of this company and Genmab is looking to strengthen and extend that backbone. Extremely important and a sign of mature management with a long term view imo. I really like Sukkeralf's term 'life cycle management' in this respect.

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                          E_L
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                          #631

                          @nohope 09:21 is my answer to that.

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                            nohope
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                            Well, you could also say, this emphasasi that GEN is a one-trick pony - Darapony.

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                              E_L
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                              even if that would be right; i would rather have a strong pony that lives longer 😉

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                                nohope
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                                #634

                                Ok, I see. Too bad, but still better than the Theresa May scenario 😉

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                                  nohope
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                                  #635

                                  Ponies forever 😉

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                                    Solsen
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                                    #636

                                    To me the agreement is still like Genmab asking Janssens for a deal - not a move from Janssens.

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                                      Solsen
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                                      Perhaps its foresight ?

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                                        Sukkeralf
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                                        #638

                                        when sc dosing of CD38 it should be secured until 2033-35...........a with all the alternatives Janssen is doing right now I agree with Solsen that Genmab has pushed this foreward and Janssen at last agree to "show us what it can do"

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                                          Sukkeralf
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #639

                                          But a nice deal to get in place before a DR5/DR5 deal and to get HexaBody and perhaps HexElect in the spotlight

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