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  • HjulmandH Offline
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    Hjulmand
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
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    Vestas har valgt en politik, hvor de vil offentliggøre faste og ubetinget ordre på DKK +500 mio. De kan offentliggøre faste og ubetinget ordre på mellem DKK 250 og 500 mio. Det er for så vidt også ok.
    OMX stille krav om, at selskaberne skal offentliggøre væsentlige forhold der kan have indflydelse på aktiekursen.

    Er jeg den eneste af den holdning, at når Vestas kende mængden af "ikke annonceret ordre", så bør de offentliggøre dem, og ikke vente til regnskabsaflæggelsen?

    Dels fordi de præsenteres som en samlet enhed, der overskrider Vestas egne satser for offentliggørelse, dels fordi de samlet udgør et væsentligt forhold, der kan have indflydelse.

    Vi så jo ved årsskiftet, at det fint kan lade sig gøre.

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      chano
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      #2

      Nej du er ikke den eneste.

      Jeg mener generelt at Vestas er for lukket og direkte nægter at bekæmpe den frygt markedet har til firmaet.

      Selvfølgelig er Vestas i konkurence med andre selskaber og derfor kan de ikke offenligøre alt, men noget kan de da informere om.

      Om ikke andet kan de aktivt søge at afkræfte rygter/negativt spin.

      Mvh
      Chano

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        cykling
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #3

        Måske det skyldes at betingelserne.På de små ordre er anderledes.Bla. upfront betalinger, altså at vestas ikke vil røbe kunden.

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          deleted-user
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          First Minister Alex Salmond fra Skotland fortæller at Skotland nu forventer at nå 50% renewable power supply i 2020.

          Kopi af artikel:

          Scotland unveils new target of 50% renewable power by 2015
          Scotland is accelerating its clean-energy ambitions with a new target of meeting 50% of its power demand from renewable sources by 2015.
          RELATED STORIES
          Buoyant UK heading for wind power big-league, says body
          Green Street: Hands-on Salmond set to help shape Scotland's offshore wind landscape
          Salmond says Scots will stick to onshore wind support plans
          The new interim goal reflects Scotland's faster-than-expected progress towards its flagship target of 100% renewable power supply by 2020, and is "ambitious, but also achievable", claims First Minister Alex Salmond.
          The announcement follows statistics from the UK Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) showing that Scotland met 35% of its electricity demand from renewables in 2011, already exceeding the previous interim target of 31%, says the Scottish government.
          The government says the 50% goal - part of a revamped national "Renewables Routemap" - is based on capacity which is operational, under construction or consented.
          Announcing the higher 2015 target at RenewableUK's conference in Glasgow, Salmond says: "Today, Scotland is producing almost 14GWh, or 35% of its electricity consumption, and we can announce a new interim target of 50% of electricity from renewables by 2015.
          "The target is ambitious but achievable. It is based on projects already consented. It doesn't depend on any new consents, although I can assure you will there will be more consents."
          Salmond adds: "When I became First Minister in 2007, I inherited a target for 50% of Scotland's electricity to be produced by renewable sources by 2020. We now know that we can achieve much more than that, more quickly."
          Salmond has made support for renewables a cornerstone of his Scottish National Party government's agenda, and the 100% by 2020 target is one of its highest-profile policies as he prepares for a vote on independence from the rest of the UK in 2014.
          He says the new 2015 target "sets the stage" for reaching the end-of-decade goal.
          "Everything that the Scottish Government does - our long-term targets and our significant financial support for developing renewables - is designed to maximise those advantages, and to encourage jobs and investment," the First Minister says.
          "In total, 11,000 people are now employed in the renewable energy sector. That number will grow still further. We have estimated that offshore wind alone could support up to 28,000 direct jobs by 2020."
          Andrew Lee, London & Ben Backwell, Glasgow
          Published: Tuesday, October 30 2012

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            deleted-user
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #5

            Lidt overordnede tal fra GWEC.

            Forventet installation i 2012 40GW.

            Tilskud til vindindustri i 2012, 60mia USD
            Tilskud til fossile brændsler i 2012, 600 USD

            http://www.management-thinking.org/content/wind-energy-boom

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              deleted-user
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              New York vil have mere offhore. Det får de da vist ikke uden PTC.

              Kopi af artikel:

              New York State in 2013 to study possible offshore wind sites
              A task force created by New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is recommending that the state's research and development arm work with other agencies to further study potential offshore sites for wind energy development.
              "Offshore wind development in New York is best achieved by completing resource characterization, technical assessments, and policy and economic analysis for broad-scale, market-based development and delivery of this resource," says a 116-page plan for adding up to 3.2GW of new electric generation and transmission capacity in the state.
              It calls for the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority (NYSERDA) to initiate the offshore studies this year and complete them by 31 December 2013.
              Cuomo's interagency Energy Highway Task Force directs NYSERDA to work with state departments and electric utilities, US Energy and Interior Departments, and private developers to "establish appropriate environmental and other research study protocols, and initiate site assessment and other relevant research activities" for offshore wind.
              It also instructs NYSERDA to look at policy and cost recovery mechanisms that could support development offshore.
              The agency is also proceeding separately with a comprehensive study of the potential economic and environmental effects of developing offshore wind. The outcome of this study will help to define the nature of the supports needed for projects to advance.
              Once understood, the state can then begin to evaluate which successful policy and regulatory mechanism may facilitate development, the plan states. These could include possible targeted renewable portfolio standard support, as well as new financing models or supply purchase options as circumstances may warrant.
              The plan notes that two previous attempts to jump-start the sector did not lead to projects being developed largely due to the high cost of development compared to other alternatives.
              It says the long Island Power Authority's Jones Beach project was "very expensive and perceived to be intrusive for the shoreline. New York Power Authority's project targeted at the Great Lakes suffered from "inadequate site and resource information along with premature issuances of a competitive solicitation" to developers, it adds.
              The plan notes that neither of those projects had a plan for recovering the substantial above-market price subsidy required to develop offshore wind.
              At present, private developer Deepwater Wind has proposed two utility-scale projects in federal waters off long Island. NYPA and other partners have put forward a 350MW project off the Rockaways in Queens.
              The plan also lists other actions designed to meet its proposed capacity addition:
              *Invest $1bn for 1000 MW of new electric transmission capacity
              *Initiate $250m in new renewable energy projects, leveraging $425m in private investment and creating 270MW of new power
              *Modernize and repower existing inefficient, high Emission plants to create 750MW of power, enabled by approximately $1.5bn investment.
              *Generate 1,200GW of additional capacity through approximately $1bn investment to help meet reliability needs to address retiring power plants across the state.
              *Accelerate $1.3bn of investment in existing transmission and distribution projects to enhance reliability, improve safety, reduce cost to customers and reduce emissions.
              *Invest $250m to develop Smart Grid technologies and create the most advanced energy management control center in the country. END
              Richard A. Kessler
              Published: Wednesday, October 31 2012

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                cykling
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                #7

                Her står vel at der komme aftaler mellem Vestas og Vietnam i november.

                Der skrives om en aftale mellem Cong Ly og Vestas, men mig bekendt så er det GE der har aftaler med dem.?

                http://www.proinvestor.com/investornyt/12619/Novo og Vestas Boersen: Vietnam tiltraekke danske giganter

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                  mccarthy
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                  #8

                  Hej Windstyrke.
                  Vedr tilskudsbeløbet til fossile brændsler skriver du 600 USD. Jeg går ud fra at sætternissen har været på spil og der skulle have stået 600 mia USD.

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                    deleted-user
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    Korrekt 600mia USD.
                    Tilskud til fossile brændsler er 10 gange højere end til til vindenergi.

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                      cykling
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      Bare sådan for at ingen glemmer Tallene.

                      Vestas Værdi på på børsen er mindre end et års omsætning i deres service afdeling.

                      http://www.vestas.com/da/2012-delårsrapport,-første-halvår/ledelsesberetning/udviklingen-i-første-halvår-2012/ordrebeholdning-og-aktivitet---service.aspx

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                      • MIFM Offline
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                        MIF
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #11

                        Nyd turen op det er kun konfirmanderne der har få 100 stk. til salg Shorterne panikker snart!

                        MIF

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                          cykling
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          Nå nu har de nok snakket i TLF med MHI igen.Mon de holder telefonen for det døve øre.eller var de stillet forkert om sidst.

                          http://www.business.dk/investor/nordea-chancer-for-mitsubishi-aftale-falmer

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                          • troldmandenT Offline
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                            troldmanden
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                            #13

                            det giver ikke megen mening for de skøre amerikanere atr bygge offshore som er op mod dobbelt så dyrt som onshore. Det er jo ikke lige frem plads de mangler onshore.....

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                              MIF
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                              Syndikatet aflytter og tracker ALT!!!

                              Det er industrispionage af format samt hjernevask og manipulation.

                              Selv her på PI bruger de også midler til at få noget til at se ringere ud men det må I selv finde ud af

                              MIF

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                              • HjulmandH Offline
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                                Hjulmand
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #15

                                Det kan vel ikke være fordi ikke vil røbe kunderne, de skal jo bare oplyse et antal solgte MW.

                                Jeg mener bare, at hvis det er vigtigt at oplyse om en kinesisk ordre på 49MW, så er det vel også vigtigt at oplyse om småordrene på f.esk. 354MW og 241MW, så snart man kende tallet. Det har trods alt betydning for vurderingen af ordreindgangen.

                                Som jeg ser det, har Vestas ingen grund til at holde på tallet, medmindre de justerer tallet på tværs af kvartalerne, men det tror jeg ikke på.

                                Nu har vi godt nok lige hørt lidt til forhandlingerne vedr. MHI, men har Vestas oplysningspligt hvis forhandlingerne bryder sammen? De har naturligvis ingen oplysningspligt når forhandlingerne pågår, men når oplysningerne nu engang er sluppet ud og Vestas måtte bekræfte rygterne, har de så pligt til at meddele et evt. sammebrud?
                                Vi kunne jo i teorien gå og vente på et resultat som ikke kommer, hvor Vestas har valgt ikke og informere ud.

                                Hvor er grænsen for "vigtigt"?

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                                  cykling
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                                  Tja i med at de har meddelt markedet at de forhandler med MHI.Så må de også havde pligt til melde når de ikke længere gør det.Det er jo en væsentlig ting for kursdannelsen.Så ja de må have oplysnings pligt.

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                                  • troldmandenT Offline
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                                    troldmanden
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #17

                                    Ja det kunne faktisk være en god ide om de oplyste antal solgte uannoncerede ordre f.eks en uge efter udløb af et Q. Det burde vitterligt ikke være noget problem.

                                    MHI er ikke de eneste vestas forhandler med ang offshore. Så derfor mener jeg ikke de skal fortælle noget hvis MHI falder fra. Den eneste årsag til vestas har bekræftet mhi forbindelsen er at en journalist havde fået nys om den, og skrev en stor artikel om sagen

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                                      Hjulmand
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                                      Jeg ved godt, at det er den eneste årsag og at vi ikke skulle have kendskab til forhandlingerne, men når nu rygtet er ude, må det vel betragtes som en væsentlig oplysning, hvis MHI falder fra?
                                      Jeg er sikker på, at et frafald vil have væsentlig kurspåvirkning, lige som et tilvalg vil have det.

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                                      • troldmandenT Offline
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                                        troldmanden
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #19

                                        nej jeg mener ikke det giver nogen mening at melde ud før de ved om de får en aftale eller ej med MHI eller en anden part

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                                          Martina
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                                          Hej Troldmand. Har du et link hvor man kan læse at Vestas forhandler med andre end MHI?

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