Omnikron
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Der er indtil i går ingen kendte dødsfald af Omikron på verdensplan, så ud fra det må der kunne konkluderes at der heller ikke er nogen dødsfald i DK...
WHO: Lad os ikke gå i panik over Omikron
Der er stadig meget, vi ikke ved om Omikron, som nu er fundet i 38 lande. Men ingen er døde af den, siger WHO.
nyheder.tv2.dk (nyheder.tv2.dk)
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"Omikron-smittede børn og unge bliver i langt højere grad syge - ingen ved hvorfor Børn og unge smittet med den nye coronavariant, omikron, bliver i langt højere grad så syge, at de skal indlægges, viser nye data fra Sydafrikas sundhedsmyndigheder. Hverken myndigheder, læger på intensivafdelinger eller WHO kan forklare hvorfor, fordi varianten endnu er så ny." Det skriver Jyllands-Posten i dag.
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Er der nogen som udtrykker bekymring i denne tråd?
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En sådan overskrift
"Omikron-smittede børn og unge bliver i langt højere grad syge"
er sensationsorienteret og skaber hurtig bekymring, og der er ingen belæg for denne overskrift fra Jyllandsposten. Den skal ikke stå uimodsagt.
Campbell laver gode analyser - du kan evt. følge ham.
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Ok. Fik opfattelse af at nogen i tråden skulle have udtrykt bekymring.
Artiklen er baseret på data fra myndighederne.
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Data kan være de samme, men analysen kan være meget forskellig.
Der er ingen data der understøtter Jyllandspostens artikel (endnu)!!
Nyhedsmedier i dag kopier bare hinanden, de ser ikke selv på det i dybden."It looks like in fact some of those admissions might have started before the emergence of Omicron," she said. "We are concerned enough that we are looking at the data very, very carefully, but at the moment I'm not too sure that we can link it definitively to Omicron."
WHAT ELSE COULD BE GOING ON?
The province of Gauteng, where Tshwane is located, has experienced an increase in flu cases in the past month.
"We need to be really careful to look at the other respiratory infections and diseases to work out why were children being admitted. Were they being tested as they were being admitted or was it precautionary?" said von Gottberg.
NICD scientists also said that parents with sick babies and infants were quick to bring them to hospital, while patients in other age groups were less likely to rush in.
WHEN WILL WE KNOW MORE?
The NICD said it was preparing a report on paediatric admissions which should be available by the end of the week.
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Tak Hyst.
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https://www.politico.eu/article/vaccines-dont-make-you-free-thousands-protest-covid-19-measures-in-brussels/
Der er nogen, der tør gøre oprør mod denne diskurs tyranni -
Jeg mener det var Stanley Milgram, der tog hånd om det modsatte; Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View.
"The Danish randomized controlled trial on the real-world efficacy of face masks against coronavirus infection - the first of its kind - has now been published in the Annals of Internal Medicine. As expected, the trial found no statistically significant benefit of wearing a face mask. The study used "high-quality surgical masks with a filtration rate of 98%".
For political reasons, three major journals had previously refused to publish the Danish study."
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Læs venligst kommentarerne samt de designmæssige limitations studiet havde, og bland ikke æbler og pærer sammen:
Milgram's forsøg er kendt og kommer som bekendt til udtryk i totalitære samfund.
Your Neighors's Son var et godt eksempel på dette i det græske diktatur.
Det 3. rige var et andet godt eksempel.Religiøse sekter er også et godt eksempel og i sin værste form i Jonestown Massakren.
Dette er basal psykologisk viden,
Men godt vi ikke er der i DK. Men der vil altid være "I have my rights", der ikke passer ind i den sociale verden vores samfund består af.
Sådan er det også i trafikken, hvor vi også prøver at regulere dem. -
Det har du da ret i, men ift. det du kalder "basal psykologisk viden" det totalitært komme jo ikke hen over natten!.
Ved Nürnbergprocesserne forklarede feltmarskal Hermann Wilhelm Göring (1893-1946), hvorfor folket fulgte Hitler.
"Det er trods alt landets ledere, der bestemmer politikken, og det er altid en simpel sag at trække folket med, hvad enten det er et demokrati eller et fascistisk diktatur eller et parlament eller et kommunistisk diktatur."
Anklager: "Med hensyn til et demokrati, de argumenterede for, har folket noget at sige i sagen gennem deres valgte repræsentanter, og i USA er det kun Kongressen, der kan erklære krig".
Göring svarede :"Stemme eller ingen stemme, folket kan altid bringes til ledernes bud. Det er nemt. Alt du skal gøre er at fortælle dem, at de bliver angrebet og udsætte landet for fare. Det fungerer på samme måde i ethvert land."
Venligt
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Ups, jeg glemte ref. til ovenstående dansk randomiseret kontrolleret forsøg:
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Godt gjort. Det er samme studie som I henviser til.... med forskellige konklusioner.
Hyst kommenterer meget rigtigt at studiet ikke rigtig viste noget. Hverken fra eller til, på grund af et svagt design. At bruge studiet til at konkludere at mundbind ingen effekt har, er en misforståelse, og i øvrigt et forsøg på "cherry picking" når der nu findes en hel masse andre internationale studier som har fundet en pæn stor effekt af at bære mundbind.
Et stort meta studie viser reduktion i smitte risikoen på over 50% ved brug af mundbind:
Effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis
Objective To review the evidence on the effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality. Design Systematic review and meta-analysis. Data sources Medline, Embase, CINAHL, Biosis, Joanna Briggs, Global Health, and World Health Organization COVID-19 database (preprints). Eligibility criteria for study selection Observational and interventional studies that assessed the effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality. Main outcome measures The main outcome measure was incidence of covid-19. Secondary outcomes included SARS-CoV-2 transmission and covid-19 mortality. Data synthesis DerSimonian Laird random effects meta-analysis was performed to investigate the effect of mask wearing, handwashing, and physical distancing measures on incidence of covid-19. Pooled effect estimates with corresponding 95% confidence intervals were computed, and heterogeneity among studies was assessed using Cochran’s Q test and the I2 metrics, with two tailed P values. Results 72 studies met the inclusion criteria, of which 35 evaluated individual public health measures and 37 assessed multiple public health measures as a “package of interventions.” Eight of 35 studies were included in the meta-analysis, which indicated a reduction in incidence of covid-19 associated with handwashing (relative risk 0.47, 95% confidence interval 0.19 to 1.12, I2=12%), mask wearing (0.47, 0.29 to 0.75, I2=84%), and physical distancing (0.75, 0.59 to 0.95, I2=87%). Owing to heterogeneity of the studies, meta-analysis was not possible for the outcomes of quarantine and isolation, universal lockdowns, and closures of borders, schools, and workplaces. The effects of these interventions were synthesised descriptively. Conclusions This systematic review and meta-analysis suggests that several personal protective and social measures, including handwashing, mask wearing, and physical distancing are associated with reductions in the incidence covid-19. Public health efforts to implement public health measures should consider community health and sociocultural needs, and future research is needed to better understand the effectiveness of public health measures in the context of covid-19 vaccination. Systematic review registration PROSPERO CRD42020178692. No additional data available.
The BMJ (www.bmj.com)
Samme forfatter af det danske studie mener at det snarere drejer sig om en 20% reduktion af smitterisikoen, men det er hans holdning.
Under alle omstændigheder så er der bred enighed om at det har en effekt på epidemien hvis folk bære mundbind. Især på de steder hvor der ikke kan holdes afstand eller hvor man er mange mennesker indendørs.
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Det kan på ingen måde sammenlignes med fascisme at kræve mundbind eller vaccination. Så længe det demokratisk vedtaget af Folketinget, så er det på linje med de almindelige begrænsninger i friheden som er veletablerede, fordi hvis de ikke fandtes så tillod man nogen at spille hazard med andres liv og ejendom.
Ens personlige frihed stopper lige der, hvor den forhindrer andre i at udøve deres personlige frihed.
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