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Genmab — Juni 2020

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Genmab
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    troldmanden
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #833

    Jeg laver vel ikke forudsætninger? Jeg uddybede blot det første, hvor der reelt står det samme 🙂

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      troldmanden
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      #834

      7 ud af 9 er jo netop alle de mest fremskredne non partner programmer minus enap og dr5

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        E_L
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        #835

        they wanted to roll out 2 drugs themselves in a 50:50 stiuation. That will be Epco and Tiso

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          E_L
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          #836

          in addition the partnered Hex37 and CD3x5T4 and 4 drugs we didn't even know about

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            E_L
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #837

            upfront will probably cover huge part of development cost

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              E_L
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #838

              not sure what is negative on that? they would always have to carry those costs, also if they weren't partnered yet now

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                E_L
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #839

                can you pls explain better where you see the problem? not seeing it?

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                  GeorgeBest
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #840

                  Totally agree with you E L 🙂

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                    E_L
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #841

                    well it is always good to be critical, maybe i am missing something

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                      E_L
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #842

                      But i am happy with the deal , specifically because @Pensionisten can now finally relax into the summer 😉

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                        troldmanden
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #843

                        Jeg synes man skal prøve at læse alle mine kommentar fra i dag igen. Hvis man så stadig mener jeg bare er negativ hvem leder så efter hullerne i osten 🙂 jeg forholder mig konstruktiv til aftalen. Der er rigtig gode elementer i den og så er der elementer jeg bestemt ville have lavet anderledes. For netop ikke at lægge så meget dræn på Genmab de kommende år. Jeg tror vi vil se analytikerne komme til at skrue gevaldigt op for udgifterne de kommende 3-4 år. Mere end hvad de stigende indtægter kan

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                          troldmanden
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #844

                          Bære

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                            troldmanden
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #845

                            Genmab har da bestemt råd til det. Jeg synes bare de kunne have struktureret den finansielle del sf upfront vs udviklings milesten

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                              troldmanden
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #846

                              Milestone bedre

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                                troldmanden
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #847

                                De kan få max $690 mio i udviklingsmilestone for 3 programmer. Bemærk JnJ har brugt 20 mia på alene dara

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                                  troldmanden
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
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                                  Og det er nu 50% af det beløb Genmab skal betale. Derfor ville jeg heller have haft lavere upfront mod signifikant højere milestones

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                                    GeorgeBest
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
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                                    Trolmand- nu er du
                                    jo også helt sikkert bedre til at forhandle en sådan partner aftale end Jan og hans meddirektører, med mange års erfaring;-)

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                                      E_L
                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #850

                                      ok, I understand what you are aiming at. The question would then be; how much extra milestone do you get for lower upfront (what is the ratio).

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                                        E_L
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #851

                                        for example, if you get 100mio less upfront, how much more milestone do you expect to get?

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                                          E_L
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #852

                                          (where the upfront is offcourse in the pocket, and the milestone uncertain; it may never come)

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