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    Solsen
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    #2201

    De kommer marginalt ud med højere royalty af 2017 end 12%, men må ikke guide med denne. Very strange agreement with JNJ not to disclose !

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      mobbyduck1
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      er lidt mere nervøs for ham "japaneren", de lige har ansat fra Janssen. Hvordan passer det lige ind??

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        mobbyduck1
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
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        JVW nævnte det i indledninge
        n i dag

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          #2204

          A few comments: We are in my view looking at an acceptable guidance which seems to be well in line with what could reasonably be expected given the circumstances.

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            #2205

            What is more interesting is that Genmab now specifies why the milestone of ”entering commercial partnerships” wasn't fully achieved in 2016. The company kindly informs us that the aim was to enter at least 2 commercial agreements meanwhile only one (minor) was landed (with Gilead)

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              ROI_-_David_Mygind
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              #2206

              he targeted milestone of ”commercial" agreements is unfortunately not being reiterated for 2017. Genmab is now merely expecting ”technology” collaborations. This implies that entering simple non-monetary explorative research agreements also now allows Genmab to "tick the box" at the end of the year. Yes, I acknowledge that this is a detail and yes I’m also jumping to strong conclusions. But, we have essentially waited for years without seeing any significant signs of commercial potential beyond

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                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #2207

                the massive JnJ collaboration. This meanwhile it seems like money is being thrown after competing biotech firms in lucrative deals on bi-specific technology platforms. However, it is still worse that the new articulation clearly shows that any negotiations efforts (or prospects) from last year must have stranded. There is simply no other reason for changing such important words that have been repeatedly published in the exact same fashion quarter after quarter for years now.

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                  ROI_-_David_Mygind
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #2208

                  I have previously expressed my scepticism in particularly after Novartis when to Xencor and essentially slapped Genmab in the face by entering a rather big commercial deal after prolonged research sniffing by Genmab.We are being told that Duobody is world-class and that we must just be patient as big pharma will eventually wake up and "smell the coffee" as they scramble to sign commercial deals accepting the co-ownership that Winkel keeps demanding.

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                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #2209

                    However, the new downplayed narrative makes me even more sceptical that the requirement of opt-in is ostentatious. Genmab is simply falling behind rapidly advancing clinical research in competing biotech companies that were willing to offer better deal terms. Remember it is the early birds that catches the worms even if they are not the best hunters !!!!!

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                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #2210

                      Let me hurry up and underline that I remain bullish. I guess it is okay to be bullish on Darzalex plus the proprietary pipeline meanwhile growing increasingly sceptical on commercial grand-standing with regards to the technology platforms that in my humble view still requires one more profound commercial partnership to have the potential fully validated.

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                        JDB
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                        #2211

                        Thank you for sharing your thoughts David. I would like another commercial partnership to be announced during 2017, but I am starting to doubt it will happen anytime soon. I hope my doubts are put to shame 🙂

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                          ROI_-_David_Mygind
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #2212

                          Well see a few mistakes, it went a bit too fast, but I guess the meaning will transpire..

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                            Helge_LarsenPI-redaktør
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #2213

                            Thank you for sharing your thoughts, David.
                            .I agree on most. If you have any questions to mr. Jan van der Winkel please do not hesitate to share them with us all tomorrow in the Q&A
                            If you have any questions regarding the procedure please do not hesitate to contact me at hl@
                            proinvestor.com Phone: +45 28 55 64 30
                            Thank you in advance. 🙂

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                              update reuters article, now $13bn http://www.reuters.com/article/genmab-results-idUSL8N1G77A1?type=companyNews&feedType=RSS&feedName=companyNews

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                                thank you E L.

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                                    mobbyduck1
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                                    @el

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                                      mobbyduck1
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                                      for you EL

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                                        Solsen
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #2219

                                        En duobody på clinical hold og en fravalgt af ikke helt klarlagte årsager er selvfølgelig negativt. Men vi har ikke endeligt bevis i noget retning omkring duobody teknologien. Vi må afvente.

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                                          Sibelius
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                                          @ROI, I think you are a bit depressed today. Remember that it might be that the early bird get the worm, but it is the second mouse that get the chease:-)

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