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Genmab — Februar 2021

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  • JørgenVarnæsJ Offline
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    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #1466

    Also it seems royalties are calculated on a yearly basis but paid on a quarterly basis - then we must have some sort of regulation somewhere

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      E_L
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #1467

      @gentogen, i used the actual Genmab guidance for a similar excercise, all at fx 6

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        E_L
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #1468

        2021 guidance $5.200.000.000 = dkk5.325.000.000 compared to dkk 4.900.000.000 guided , gives a difference of dkk
        425.000.000

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          E_L
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #1469

          and similar for the high guidance $5.600.000.000 5.805.000.000 dkk 5.300.000.000 diff
          505.000.000

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            E_L
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            #1470

            now this is on total sales, so we would need to make an assumption what part is Faspro to calculate the missing %

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            • JørgenVarnæsJ Offline
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              JørgenVarnæs
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #1471

              The thing is - GEN does not give us the royalty in USD

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                E_L
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #1472

                well, they gave us the fx rate they use, so we can calculate

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                  JørgenVarnæs
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #1473

                  Where did you find that?

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                    E_L
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #1474

                    with the fx at 6, royalties fitting to USD 5.2bn, should be DKK5.325bn

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                      JørgenVarnæs
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #1475

                      Ok - gotcha. I’ve been looking at the quarterly nos. Your approach makes more sense

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                        E_L
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                        #1476

                        from
                        transcript: The 2020 average rate for the dollar-kroner was around DKK6.5 and for 2021 we're assuming a flat DKK6

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                          E_L
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #1477

                          so we know they assume missing royalties of between 425m and 505m for that particular guidance

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                            E_L
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #1478

                            dkk

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                              JørgenVarnæs
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #1479

                              A reduction of nearly 10% - translating into 2-2,5%points deducted from the 20%

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                                JørgenVarnæs
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #1480

                                It all adds up. That is a truly nasty piece of work from JJ

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                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #1481

                                  i am not sure i follow you there (it is a bit less than 10%) of TOTAL sales though, but we should only pay on Faspro sales

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                                    lexus
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                                    #1482

                                    Er det nu man skal købe en bid af genmap

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                                      E_L
                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #1483

                                      sorry lexus, you are on the wrong page, this is the genmaB page 😉

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                                        lexus
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                                        #1484

                                        ok prøver igen er nu man skal købe en bid af GENMAB

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                                          Bulder
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                                          #1485

                                          Er konklusionen så, at det koster ca ½ mia i reduceret royalty?

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