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Genmab — Februar 2018

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    GlobalMacro 0
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    #2674

    Hi everyone, now that AQR hasn't bought back the shares while both qualitative narratives for shorting seem to be invalid (CAR-T & Dara sales). I believe the probabillity of AQR shorting Genmab as part of a long derivative strategy becomes more likely. I would not be so sure that AQR adding shorts is a negative thing. It could mean that an entity (via AQR) is adding to their long strategy. What do you gu
    ys think, unlikely or maybe something to consider?

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      StockBull
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      #2675

      Nemlig Solsen . AQR kan umuligt have baseret shorten paa at Genmab maaske har 50 eller 60% chance for at fejle i S.T. Tror mere de er i ledtog med HSBC om at forsoege at holde kursen nede.

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        mobbyduck1
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        #2676

        @globalmacro, it is very simpel, it is NOT legal!!

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          GlobalMacro 0
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          #2677

          Hm, interesting, why not? Why can't an enity buy a call option and short at the same time? By which goverment security rule is this illegal? And lets say if indeed it's illegal everywhere in the world (which I doubt but ok), then there are always ways around this. Working with different enities that belong to the same holding or in the end are working together etc etc. Wall Street does this more often, no doubt. It's just a hedge

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            GlobalMacro 0
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            #2678

            this kind of setup would be ideal for situations in which a stock price could make such a high jumb that the profit on the long side is way more than the cost on the short side. However if the stock drops, the costs of the longs are hedged with the shorts

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              mobbyduck1
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              #2679

              there is ways around it, no doubt, but you cannot add to long position, when You are shorting. But i had the same ideas like you for a long time

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                GlobalMacro 0
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                #2680

                so in times of a take over this could
                work very well

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                  StockBull
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                  #2681

                  As a private invester one can have shorts and longs in Genmab by using 2 different platforms. Can't why AQR can't do the sam e e.g shorts from AQR USA and longs from AQR UK.

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                    mobbyduck1
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                    #2682

                    and then we will have a dream scenario, when they close the shorts

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                      GlobalMacro 0
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                      #2683

                      yes exactly

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                        GlobalMacro 0
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                        #2684

                        the fact that they did not close and still are adding tells me this is not a regular short, it feels more as a hedge then a bearish trade. Of course there's always uncertainty, "do they know something"?? the answer with a probabillity of 99% is: no the probably don't know something we don't know. This is your mind that always gets to you in situations like this. But Genmab's story is rock solid, haven't seen these fundamentals ever..

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                          Solsen
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                          #2685

                          Its not normal short as they would have stopped adding after Winkels peptalk.

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                            CPH
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                            #2686

                            Solsen - enig

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                              Mcjean
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                              #2687

                              Agree and the funny part you more the short you more other will suck the profit out of AQR

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                                Mcjean
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                                #2688

                                Like a fish living in symbiotic with the whale.

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                                  mobbyduck1
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                                  #2689

                                  sygt luk

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                                    mobbyduck1
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                                    #2690

                                    sygt luk

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                                      Bulder
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                                      #2691

                                      Ikke tit man ser næsten ½-delen af omsætningen i luk.

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                                        Mcjean
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                                        Genmabs stockholdere er "kloge mennesker" som er svære at skræmme, endvidere er der mange "kloge mennesker" der holder nøje øje med denne tåbelige short og er klar til at slå til så snart de starter inddækning, måske? Jeg kunne forestille mig Genmab starter opkøb for en mia. eller 2, måske et par banker følger trop og du har en oplagt shortsquezze, spændende bliver det især når verdens hurtigste BB begynder en progressiv linje.

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                                          Mcjean
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                                          progressiv salgskurve.

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