Genmab — Juni 2019

[Sukkeralf]

Man har nok noget nemmere ved at gå fra et fase I/II studiei MM direkte til fase III ved eksempelvis hexaboosted daratumab, da man jo kender stoffet utroligt godt i denne indikation. Måske der skal lidt mere til i DLBCL !

[Bulder]

Apollo - dara-pom-dex - fase 3, bygger vel direkte på DPd armen i Equuleus?

[Sukkeralf]

Yes - og selvfølgelig alt den viden man har fra andre IMiDs studier

[Sukkeralf]

Ville være rart med MAIA godkendelse nuuuuu, så man lige kunne promovere på EHA de kommende dage

[Bulder]

Hvad koster er fase 1B studie med f.eks. 100 pts.?

[Sukkeralf]

en tommelfingerregel siger 1 million pr patient

[Bulder]

kroner?

[Sukkeralf]

ja

[Bulder]

peanuts

[Bulder]

Og de vil få 20% royalty fra starten.

[Sukkeralf]

Ja for at få 150 millioner dollars - det er jo en odds 10 kupon

[Sukkeralf]

Dog en gammel tommelfingerregel

[Parasitism]

God morgen

[E_L]

@ 08:03 if it is meant as a replacement for Dara, that is logical, as Dara will be at 20%; it wouldnt makes sense for Genmab to offer a replacement at lower royalties

[E_L]

What has been bothering me since yesterday, is that after 2031 both Dara and HexaBody-CD38 will each separately have tiered royalties, the way i read it

[E_L]

In other words, if the HexaBody-CD38 also starts 20% from $3bn, now the first $6bn of the sum of Dara and HexaBody-CD38 will be below 20%.

[E_L]

not sure if i am writing this very clearly here lol, but you know what i mean i hope

[Sukkeralf]

You could be right about that - but it will only be a few years before Darzalex run out of patent protection and then maybe Janssen will put all effords on Hexa-CD38

[Sukkeralf]

Thats probably also why Genmab could negotiate the 20% until 2031

[E_L]

yes, could be, i was thinking similarly. But surely they will keep selling some Dara for years to come, even if off-patent. (I could not exactly place 2031 btw, it is after IV patent and before SC patent?)