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Genmab — Februar 2024

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    E_L
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    #193

    and to remind you , bringing out the early data on HexaCD38 wasn't exactly a very big success lol. my guess is that they will actually become even more carefull bringing out new
    data...

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      #194

      ...because data wasn't deemed to be very KYSO - in fact the data has changed market sentiment away from opt-in.

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        JørgenVarnæs
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        #195

        here we are in year 24 of GENs existence - CD38 is closed country, cd3cd20 is heavily contested by Roche - and little else to show

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          E_L
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          #196

          Kesimpta, tepezza, tisotumab, talquetamab, teclistamab, amivantamab, these are not little drugs. the technology is there. But there is nobody that can guarantee a repeat, that is true.

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            JørgenVarnæs
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            #197

            ...with how much ownership? GEN is being traded as a bond with the royalties from dara and the cash holding as a foundation. Other than that, there is very little of value in the valuation

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              JørgenVarnæs
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #198

              KYSO must be about how much value GEN leaves on the table for the partners

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                E_L
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                #199

                which is why they want 50/50 partnerships in the future. which they hope to get from the stronger position they are in now. beter deals were not possible in the past , unfortunately

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                  JørgenVarnæs
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                  #200

                  Better deals were possible every step of the way

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                    JørgenVarnæs
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                    #201

                    GEN hasn't missed one single step in messing up values

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                      Sukkeralf
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                      #202

                      I think you are unbelievable harsh in your criticism of Genmab JV - its still one of the most successful biotechs in Europe

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                        JørgenVarnæs
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                        #203

                        Seriously - take out dara and cash from the valuation and you are left with dust and tubleweeds. Is that the hallmark of a successful R&D organization?

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                          JørgenVarnæs
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                          #204

                          Its time GEN starts earning its keep for the shareholders

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                            You cannot put a finger on the Scientific side of genmab. It’s been an unprecedented world class succes. Their wiilingness to pay out to shareholders however is far from satisfying.

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                              JørgenVarnæs
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                              #206

                              Please note, that I'm not questioning the quality of the research - I'm questioning the business decisions following the research

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                                #207

                                Am I completely wrong in saying, that the current GEN valuation is made up ENTIRELY from cash and expected dara-derived royalties?

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                                  Bulder
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                                  #208

                                  Genmab is not to be blamed for the current Price. It’s not Long ago it was +3000. Business hasn’t changed since then.

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                                    JørgenVarnæs
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                                    #209

                                    No? I beg to differ

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                                      #210

                                      When Verdult says he still has respect for GEN leadership - but dara has been gifted to the partner and hexacd38 is closed country, he is really saying - there is not much respect left

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                                        #211

                                        GEN1046 Safety Trial has gone from Recruiting -to - Active, not recruiting https://classic.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/history/NCT03917381?A=26&B=27&C=merged#StudyPageTop

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                                          Teller
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                                          #212

                                          To be honest - My greatest concern is the deal made on super Dara. Was the same lawyers used for this deal??

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