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Genmab — Januar 2024

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  • JørgenVarnæsJ Offline
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    JørgenVarnæs
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #1039

    Lige nu er dara+cash i grove terme jo lig værdien af Genmab. Derfor skal man have dkk 120 mia ud af muldvarpen, før man kommer i nærheden af det, som skaber værdi for en industriel opkøber

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      E_L
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      #1040

      I would say there is a good chance you could strip Dara out of the company and sell the royalty stream back to JNJ, at a price that could potentially be beneficial to both JNJ and an acquirer that is not interested in a low risk/low upside royalty stream. and include the rights to HexaCD38

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        JørgenVarnæs
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #1041

        Would make sense - but can you imagine Jan letting go of the proceeds? Easier to squeeze blood from a stone…

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          Plimsoller
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          #1042

          E L, do you mean that the full rights to Hexa could be acquired by a third party?

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            JKY_VH
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            #1043

            Jeg kan slet ikke forstå, at JNJ ikke har regnet den hjem endnu, men som JV påpeger må der være mange nødstedte warrents. Med det mindset, som jeg desværre tror bestyrelsen har, så kan det måske være startskuddet til at få åbnet op for regnearket. Jeg bliver ikke overrasket, hvis det ender i et take-over. Jan er jo heller ikke noget årsunge og han har om nogen "hånden på kogepladen" og dermed økonomiske interesser på spil.

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            • JørgenVarnæsJ Offline
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              JørgenVarnæs
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #1044

              I know I’m a bit of a downer, but GEN has provided plenty of bitter seeds lately - why the fu€%#€%ing h#”€%€&ll has GEN hoarded so much cash - and still entered into a 50/50 agreement with abbvie on Epco?

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                JørgenVarnæs
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #1045

                It seems GEN has spent loads of money on building a commercial organization anyway - so we get both the cost and the downside of reduced ownership

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                  Plimsoller
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #1046

                  50/50 or similar makes sense to me as all the money in the world can't buy you the expertise of selling and distributing (at least not immediately). I don't think the commercial organisation is mature enough (yet) to get the full benefit out of EPCO.

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                    Plimsoller
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #1047

                    Maybe they are planning different percentages for the next ones, and that is why they are ramping up.

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                      JørgenVarnæs
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #1048

                      @el - what you are describing seems like a very complex transaction. In Actelion they did something similar - but the difference is in Actelion, the company had retained the commercial rights

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                        JørgenVarnæs
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #1049

                        That was for EL…

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                          E_L
                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                          #1050

                          no, this is certainly not what Jan wants; he wants going concern

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                            E_L
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #1051

                            but in case of a take over bid, the bidder could choose to go that way

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                              JørgenVarnæs
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #1052

                              Plimsoller - if GEN does not intend to use the money for development - why keep it?

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                                E_L
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #1053

                                @Plimsoller everything can be sold, for the right price 😉 -but again, certainly don't see Genmab going that way

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                                  JørgenVarnæs
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #1054

                                  Seems very complicated - and a very round about way to juggle usd 15 - 20 billion

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                                    E_L
                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #1055

                                    it isn't really that complicated, you just sell your rights to the royalties. And as a takeover party you need a lot less cash.

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                                      JørgenVarnæs
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                                      #1056

                                      But I’m sure we can agree - if GEN is not sold at this current stock level - it is not going to happen in the foreseeable future

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                                        JørgenVarnæs
                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #1057

                                        Now you’re assuming Jan is game for that. Hell will freeze over a lot sooner

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                                          JørgenVarnæs
                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #1058

                                          However, it would be a great way to say - we will neverneverever do business with you again!

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